Joe Biden Doesn’t Know How Guns Work

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Former Vice President Joe Biden speaks about the coronavirus pandemic at an event in Wilmington, Del., March 12, 2020. (Carlos Barria/Reuters)

Joe Biden can best capitalize on the rioting following the death of George Floyd in the same way he can best capitalize on anything in 2020: by keeping quiet and out of sight. Unfortunately for Biden, he does occasionally show up and say things. And then this happens: He suggests that police should be trained that, if cops rushed by unarmed person, they could “shoot them in the leg instead of the heart is a very different thing.”

This is bad advice that would get people killed. Police do have a variety of tools of non-deadly force at their disposal (tasers, rubber bullets, etc.), although some of those, too, can be deadly in some circumstances. Floyd, after all, was killed by a man’s knee. But anyone who has been trained in police work or the military could tell you: Firing a gun is always potentially deadly force. You shoot for center mass, to kill, or you don’t shoot at all. If you’re not prepared to kill someone, you should not even point a loaded gun at them, much less fire it. If you don’t have grounds to shoot to kill, you don’t have grounds to shoot.

There are all kinds of things that can go wrong by trying to shoot to wound, because most people are not expert marksmen, and even expert marksmen do not have the greatest of aim in chaotic circumstances. You can miss, and the person you’re shooting at isn’t stopped. You can miss, and hit and kill an innocent bystander. You can hit someone in an artery, and they bleed to death. You can be thinking “shoot to wound,” but the second radio car responding to the scene rolls out thinking “firefight in progress” and opens both barrels.

The police sometimes shoot people they shouldn’t, but this is the wrong way to try to change that. (If anything, studies have not supported the claim that police shootings are racially disproportionate; there may be a stronger claim for racial disparities in the use of other forms of force, as in Floyd’s case). One thing police training gets right, though, is that it draws a clear line around firing your gun only when you are prepared to kill. Blurring that line is only going to make things worse.

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26 Comments

  1. I want to get another one of those A$-14’s with the special Kevin DeLeon 30 clip magazine.

    1. sirs?I am 40 years ago political refuge from Communist Europa, after 41 years if I see this idiot Biden president, I honestly pack up my shidt and fly away from this country, not able to handle anymore, sadnly obama betray own black folks nor mister fucking nice guy promise to defend own brothers, NWO communism work on full speed, worse even,because they make laws to not breath frish God’s created air for us, doomsday is soon very soon

    2. Right, the “ghost” gun that can fire, what was it, 30 rounds a second? Interposed “clip” and “magazine” having no clue as to the difference. AR-14’s that Bidumbo want’s to confiscate. He can have mine, whatever it is.
      Biden wants to make his wife a felon – “fire two shots into the air from the balcony” – and joe, she will be charged with unlawful discharge of a weapon, and if anyone is hit by the falling rounds, And, now she has an empty weapon.
      So much for using it for self defense against the “intruder”. Now she can use it as a club, or door stop.
      Biden says to “fire thru the door” – again, Jill is going to jail. She would be in NO eminent danger of life or property. Firing a weapon thru the door will however get you a manslaughter or murder charge.
      Biden want you to fire at the leg of an “unarmed” person carrying a knife – Um, first off, a knife is a weapon there Joe Dementia. IF and WHEN you point your weapon at someone, you shoot to stop the threat, period. That may be one round, it may be 10. If the person’s been on a 3 day coke binge and is hopped up on PCP, it’s quite possible to hit them center mass multiple times, AND THEY KEEP COMING. Their adrenaline rush is so immense they don’t realize yet they are, literally, walking dead. But they can kill you before that message reaches their brain. You could blow their leg clean off, and they won’t know it. They’ll keep coming, and coming, and coming. Until the message finally reaches their brain that they are now dead. But if you’re not prepared, they can kill you before that happens.
      Sorry Joe Dementia, when it comes to weapons, you are a classic and epic moron. Sit down, shut up

  2. Anyone stupid enough to ignore an officers order, is putting their life at risk. You kick in my front door, I don’t have time to follow the “Proper” procedure of , 1. Say, “Halt or I’ll shoot”. 2. Fire a warning shot. 3. Shoot the person. But I will do all three. No matter how many shots I fire. Lawyers have made it impossible to do anything without breaking some law. Even “What shape the hole in my car key is. You can’t buy a “Usable” gas can today. Now most people just use a funnel and throw to gas cap on the ground. MUCH safer! Gun Control worked poorly last Sunday in Chicago. Only 26 shot and killed, 65 were wounded. Have you heard how many had their “Concealed Carry Permits” revoked? Or how many were NRA members? Come On! , let’s hear the “REAL News”!

    1. Remember, you are shooting to stop the assailant. Keep saying that until your lawyer arrives. Better target might be his gonads, although that would not work as well for female assailants.

    2. Alzheimer’s Joe has the mental capacity of a common garden slug. He can’t even change his own DEPENDS.

  3. Biden is a blithering, perv idiot! He’s the one who suggested that shotguns were easier for women to fire (suggested they fire into the air, no less, to scare potential assailants!) than an AR platform. He needs to crawl back into his basement like the slimy troll he is, put on his face mask and shut up! Firearms are to be used only when deadly force is REQUIRED, not until. You shoot to “eliminate the threat’, and that usually means KILL. Don’t wanna get killed? Don’t riot!
    Common sense ain’t so common, so the politicians are panicking!

    “Politicians like to panic.
    They need activity; it’s their substitute for achievement!”

    *Sir Humphery Appleby

  4. “You shoot for center mass, to kill…”

    This is bad advice. Any professional like a CCW trainer will tell you that you only shoot to stop a threat. If it results in death, that’s not or ever was your intention. Most people don’t die of pistol gun shots anyway. In places like CA you will be heavily scrutinized.

  5. Yeah, these are the people who want to take guns away from knowledgeable people. Stupid people should have no say.

    Don’t forget, Joe Biden advised a woman to buy a shotgun.
    “If you want to protect yourself, get a double barrel shotgun, have the shells of a 12-gauge shotgun … and fire two blasts outside the house. I promise you … You don’t need an AR-15. It’s harder to aim. It’s harder to use, and in fact, you don’t need 30 rounds to protect yourself. Buy a shotgun, buy a shotgun,”

    Biden explained his suggestion to his wife Jill for handling an intruder.
    “If there’s ever a problem,” Biden said he told his wife, “just walk out on the balcony here— walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house.”

    Biden said.
    “I did one of these town-hall meetings on the Internet and one guy said, “Well, what happens when the end days come? What happens when there’s the earthquake? I live in California, and I have to protect myself.”
    I said, “Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door.”

    Maybe he is Sheila Jackson Lee’s cousin. Lee describes her personal experience “I’ve held an AR-15 in my hand, I wish I had it. It is as heavy as 10 boxes that you might be moving and the bullet that is utilized, a .50 caliber, these kinds of bullets, need to be licensed and do not need to be on the street,”

  6. Shot to the leg? Yes, a .45 cal. bullet from a mdl 1911 can kill a person, almost from being hit anyplace on the body! Joe Biden knows nothing about firearms. They are made to kill, not just hurt. I suppose if a bear attacks me in the woods, I should try and shoot a toe & claw off. Biden lives in La-la Land!

  7. Don’t want to have a negative interaction with a police officer?

    First, don’t commit a crime.
    Secondly, if you are arrested, don’t resist.
    Third, never, never resist and have a weapon. If you do, don’t be surprised if the nice officer shoots you 19 times.
    Fourth, a rock or a stick is a weapon. Anything in your hand is viewed as a weapon and can get you killed.
    Last, the color of you skin makes no difference. Ignoring an order by an officer makes the difference.

  8. Biden’s comment was even more ridiculous than what the author of this piece said! Biden’s comment was “If an UNARMED person comes at you with a KNIFE or something………”! Further shows the mental ability of the bozo! Anyone brandishing a knife or any potential weapon is NOT unarmed, you idiot!

  9. Joe’s problem is that he comes from wealth and privledge and has never filed a unemployment form, had to go hungry to pay the rent, payed for a car with his own money or worried about getting out of high school and coming up college tuition funds and all of the worries and problems, we 99% little people have to endure. He does not understand his constituents troubles through life that he represents………..

  10. All Joe Biden knows, is how to suck off the public tit while spouting nonsense and lies. He’s been doing it all his life. Time to cut him loose as well as all the other deadwood in government.

  11. Give Joe a 45 and have him show us how it is done during these riots. Don’t run your mouth with LIES and BS and make such IDIOTIC statement or lies!!

  12. Biden is a moron, as president he’d be a huge disaster. All of that is a given.

    But I must correct the article. One does not shoot to kill. Tell that to the police during the investigation and yo’ll be keeping Bubba happy for a very long time. One shoots to stop. It just so happens that a stopping shot is one to the heart/lung/brain areas. If the perp lives, well OK. If he/she dies, well, OK. They chose their course. But a leg shot can be hard to pull off and lots of cops aren’t good enough to hit a barn wall if they’re inside the barn. Is Biden a moron? Yup. I doubt he wipes his own anal sphincter. He’s too stupid to figure out how to.

    Where is his wife during all of this? Supposedly she’s a Dr., can’t she see how he’s failing?

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